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		<title>By: Carolyn Jewel</title>
		<link>http://carolynjewel.com/wordpress/2012/09/08/lets-not-get-over-it/#comment-29532</link>
		<dc:creator>Carolyn Jewel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Teresa:

I agree with you. From what I&#039;ve heard about the authors who were found to be doing this, they targeted authors and books they believed were their competitors. Presumably, they believed there was some increased chance of a reader buying their book instead. But you are absolutely right in that there is no guarantee of that. Such deceptive reviews are, in fact, designed to hurt that author. Konrath&#039;s argument that &lt;em&gt;all&lt;/em&gt; negative reviews are intended to harm the author is, in my opinion, an attempt to convince us cases like these are no different. As if motives don&#039;t matter. 

Thanks for stopping by.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teresa:</p>
<p>I agree with you. From what I&#8217;ve heard about the authors who were found to be doing this, they targeted authors and books they believed were their competitors. Presumably, they believed there was some increased chance of a reader buying their book instead. But you are absolutely right in that there is no guarantee of that. Such deceptive reviews are, in fact, designed to hurt that author. Konrath&#8217;s argument that <em>all</em> negative reviews are intended to harm the author is, in my opinion, an attempt to convince us cases like these are no different. As if motives don&#8217;t matter. </p>
<p>Thanks for stopping by.</p>
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		<title>By: Teresa</title>
		<link>http://carolynjewel.com/wordpress/2012/09/08/lets-not-get-over-it/#comment-29496</link>
		<dc:creator>Teresa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 05:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know I&#039;m coming late to the game here and this will probably not even be read, but one thing struck me about Mr. Konrath&#039;s stance.  Reading isn&#039;t a finite resource.  It&#039;s not like I only can buy two books, his or another one and if the other one has bad reviews I&#039;ll buy his.  In fact, I buy and read lots of books.  I&#039;m always looking for more.  So his negative reviews of someone else&#039;s book don&#039;t equate directly to higher sales of his.  Those reviews are only to hurt that particular writer.  I think it&#039;s important to ask why he would possibly think that&#039;s acceptable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I&#8217;m coming late to the game here and this will probably not even be read, but one thing struck me about Mr. Konrath&#8217;s stance.  Reading isn&#8217;t a finite resource.  It&#8217;s not like I only can buy two books, his or another one and if the other one has bad reviews I&#8217;ll buy his.  In fact, I buy and read lots of books.  I&#8217;m always looking for more.  So his negative reviews of someone else&#8217;s book don&#8217;t equate directly to higher sales of his.  Those reviews are only to hurt that particular writer.  I think it&#8217;s important to ask why he would possibly think that&#8217;s acceptable.</p>
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		<title>By: Carolyn Jewel</title>
		<link>http://carolynjewel.com/wordpress/2012/09/08/lets-not-get-over-it/#comment-26682</link>
		<dc:creator>Carolyn Jewel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 15:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[T.K: I agree with your take on this. Thanks for the comment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T.K: I agree with your take on this. Thanks for the comment.</p>
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		<title>By: T.K. Marnell</title>
		<link>http://carolynjewel.com/wordpress/2012/09/08/lets-not-get-over-it/#comment-26604</link>
		<dc:creator>T.K. Marnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t believe most people think that their negative reviews have any power to harm a book&#039;s sales. A two-paragraph rant on bad grammar is a tiny bitter drop in a very big ocean of stars. I&#039;ve left negative reviews myself, and I know I wasn&#039;t thinking, &quot;I must stop other people from giving this author money!&quot; I was thinking, &quot;Gawd! The heroine was such a useless brat!&quot; I was writing them mostly to let off steam, not to destroy careers. I know nobody pays attention to what I have to say, anyway.

If you take a hard look at Konrath&#039;s reasoning, it boils down to two questionable principles: (1) It&#039;s okay to do unethical things because millions of others do unethical things, and (2) it&#039;s okay to do unethical things because you &lt;em&gt;can&lt;/em&gt; do unethical things. &quot;If it was wrong, it wouldn&#039;t be allowed.&quot;

Um, yeah. It&#039;s technically an American citizen&#039;s right to stand outside the funeral of a serviceman with a sign that says, &quot;God Hates Fags!&quot; screaming obscenities at the mourners and hoping someone throws a punch so you can sue them. Nothing illegal about it. So since it&#039;s perfectly &quot;allowed,&quot; it can&#039;t be wrong. We shouldn&#039;t be outraged when someone does it, right?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe most people think that their negative reviews have any power to harm a book&#8217;s sales. A two-paragraph rant on bad grammar is a tiny bitter drop in a very big ocean of stars. I&#8217;ve left negative reviews myself, and I know I wasn&#8217;t thinking, &#8220;I must stop other people from giving this author money!&#8221; I was thinking, &#8220;Gawd! The heroine was such a useless brat!&#8221; I was writing them mostly to let off steam, not to destroy careers. I know nobody pays attention to what I have to say, anyway.</p>
<p>If you take a hard look at Konrath&#8217;s reasoning, it boils down to two questionable principles: (1) It&#8217;s okay to do unethical things because millions of others do unethical things, and (2) it&#8217;s okay to do unethical things because you <em>can</em> do unethical things. &#8220;If it was wrong, it wouldn&#8217;t be allowed.&#8221;</p>
<p>Um, yeah. It&#8217;s technically an American citizen&#8217;s right to stand outside the funeral of a serviceman with a sign that says, &#8220;God Hates Fags!&#8221; screaming obscenities at the mourners and hoping someone throws a punch so you can sue them. Nothing illegal about it. So since it&#8217;s perfectly &#8220;allowed,&#8221; it can&#8217;t be wrong. We shouldn&#8217;t be outraged when someone does it, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Carolyn Jewel</title>
		<link>http://carolynjewel.com/wordpress/2012/09/08/lets-not-get-over-it/#comment-26470</link>
		<dc:creator>Carolyn Jewel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2012 22:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, he did:

::Every one of those millions of reviewers who trashed a book deliberately did it to harm that book’s sales. That’s the whole point of a one star review.::

Note the words &quot;Every one...&quot;

I don&#039;t think it&#039;s possible to interpret &quot;every one of those&quot; as anything but equivalent to &quot;all.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, he did:</p>
<p>::Every one of those millions of reviewers who trashed a book deliberately did it to harm that book’s sales. That’s the whole point of a one star review.::</p>
<p>Note the words &#8220;Every one&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s possible to interpret &#8220;every one of those&#8221; as anything but equivalent to &#8220;all.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Pinto Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pinto Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2012 22:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did he say the words ALL are written with MALICE?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did he say the words ALL are written with MALICE?</p>
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		<title>By: Carolyn Jewel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carolyn Jewel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2012 16:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pinto:  I disagree with Konrath&#039;s statement that ALL 1-star reviews are written with malice. That&#039;s just not true. Konrath has conflated effect with intent. A reader who writes a negative review does not intend to harm a book. The reader intends to share her opinion. The effect of that review may indeed be that other readers do not buy that book. Oddly enough, it happens to be true that a negative review sells books. (I would point you toward Dear Author who wrote a post about this very effect.)  Konrath did not, I would point out, claim that all 1-star reviews are written by people who are not disclosing their financial interest in the success of a competing book.

But even if it were true that all 1-star reviews are malicious in intent, that doesn&#039;t make it OK for an author to hide his identity when posting negative reviews about competing books. It&#039;s deceitful and malicious.

I strongly disagree with Konrath&#039;s statement that such actions by an author are fine. They&#039;re not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pinto:  I disagree with Konrath&#8217;s statement that ALL 1-star reviews are written with malice. That&#8217;s just not true. Konrath has conflated effect with intent. A reader who writes a negative review does not intend to harm a book. The reader intends to share her opinion. The effect of that review may indeed be that other readers do not buy that book. Oddly enough, it happens to be true that a negative review sells books. (I would point you toward Dear Author who wrote a post about this very effect.)  Konrath did not, I would point out, claim that all 1-star reviews are written by people who are not disclosing their financial interest in the success of a competing book.</p>
<p>But even if it were true that all 1-star reviews are malicious in intent, that doesn&#8217;t make it OK for an author to hide his identity when posting negative reviews about competing books. It&#8217;s deceitful and malicious.</p>
<p>I strongly disagree with Konrath&#8217;s statement that such actions by an author are fine. They&#8217;re not.</p>
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		<title>By: Pinto Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pinto Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2012 12:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#039;Actually, no. I don’t think Konrath is right on this one. People write 1-star reviews in order to tell other people that they did not like that book. They are expressing an opinion about the book they read. It’s the expression of opinion that’s the whole point of a review, 1-star or 5.  To suggest that all 1-star reviews are motivated by malice (“did it to harm that book’s sales”) is ridiculous. It is not malicious to say you did not like a book when, in fact, you did not like that book.&#039;

People tell other people it was one star in order so they don&#039;t buy it. You&#039;ve basically agreed with him. Although you&#039;ve but a few words into what he said then quoted as fact.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Actually, no. I don’t think Konrath is right on this one. People write 1-star reviews in order to tell other people that they did not like that book. They are expressing an opinion about the book they read. It’s the expression of opinion that’s the whole point of a review, 1-star or 5.  To suggest that all 1-star reviews are motivated by malice (“did it to harm that book’s sales”) is ridiculous. It is not malicious to say you did not like a book when, in fact, you did not like that book.&#8217;</p>
<p>People tell other people it was one star in order so they don&#8217;t buy it. You&#8217;ve basically agreed with him. Although you&#8217;ve but a few words into what he said then quoted as fact.</p>
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		<title>By: Carolyn Jewel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carolyn Jewel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2012 06:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Exactly. I&#039;m appalled that Konrath either does not see why that&#039;s wrong, or, alternatively, appalled that he does and sees nothing unethical about it.

From that post, alas, it seems fairly clear it&#039;s the latter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly. I&#8217;m appalled that Konrath either does not see why that&#8217;s wrong, or, alternatively, appalled that he does and sees nothing unethical about it.</p>
<p>From that post, alas, it seems fairly clear it&#8217;s the latter.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2012 03:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;We all know why Mr. Ellory didn’t use his real name in posting those reviews of competing books: if he had, his “review” would have been instantly identifiable as biased. If he had posted those reviews as himself, his reviews would have been read in the proper context and readers could have made an informed decision about how much weight to give to those words. But he didn’t.&lt;/em&gt;

THIS.

The intention of these &quot;reviews&quot; is to deceive readers, because the only way they can appear to be legitimate is if the identity of the &quot;reviewer&quot; is hidden. Or, in the case of purchased reviews, if the circumstances under which the review was produced (money in exchange for a positive review) are unknown to the reader. So it&#039;s not like someone underestimates the presence of a COI - the &quot;review&quot; is presented in such a way as to disguise its origins. Very different thing, objectively speaking.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>We all know why Mr. Ellory didn’t use his real name in posting those reviews of competing books: if he had, his “review” would have been instantly identifiable as biased. If he had posted those reviews as himself, his reviews would have been read in the proper context and readers could have made an informed decision about how much weight to give to those words. But he didn’t.</em></p>
<p>THIS.</p>
<p>The intention of these &#8220;reviews&#8221; is to deceive readers, because the only way they can appear to be legitimate is if the identity of the &#8220;reviewer&#8221; is hidden. Or, in the case of purchased reviews, if the circumstances under which the review was produced (money in exchange for a positive review) are unknown to the reader. So it&#8217;s not like someone underestimates the presence of a COI &#8211; the &#8220;review&#8221; is presented in such a way as to disguise its origins. Very different thing, objectively speaking.</p>
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